Discussion:
System rules unloading on 2ndary Management Server
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JB
2008-12-19 03:43:01 UTC
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Hi all,
I have been having major issues with my 2nday MS. About 3 days ago it
started to unload the System Rules spontaneously (about 450 of them). This
meant no alerting was occurring, (and I presume monitoring stopped as well)
for hours at a time.
To circumvent the problem, I made the RMS the management server for all the
agents.
The 2ndary MS is still complaining and unloading the sytem rules every hour
or so with Event Vwr showing Event ID: 20026.

The health service {5314D6FC-230A-1EA4-AFA6-51A1F1069924} running on host
myserver.ad.com and serving management group MY-INFRA with id
{A14EF930-B118-69AB-E6B0-2F2EDCCEC702} is not healthy. Some system rules
failed to load.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Does anyone know why this is happening and what fix can be applied?
Should I re-install SCOM on the 2ndary MS?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
Marius Sutara [MSFT]
2008-12-31 18:09:30 UTC
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were you able to recognize what was failing to load?
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Post by JB
Hi all,
I have been having major issues with my 2nday MS. About 3 days ago it
started to unload the System Rules spontaneously (about 450 of them). This
meant no alerting was occurring, (and I presume monitoring stopped as well)
for hours at a time.
To circumvent the problem, I made the RMS the management server for all the
agents.
The 2ndary MS is still complaining and unloading the sytem rules every hour
or so with Event Vwr showing Event ID: 20026.
The health service {5314D6FC-230A-1EA4-AFA6-51A1F1069924} running on host
myserver.ad.com and serving management group MY-INFRA with id
{A14EF930-B118-69AB-E6B0-2F2EDCCEC702} is not healthy. Some system rules
failed to load.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone know why this is happening and what fix can be applied?
Should I re-install SCOM on the 2ndary MS?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
JB
2009-01-01 01:12:00 UTC
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Hi Marius,
How should I do this?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
Post by Marius Sutara [MSFT]
were you able to recognize what was failing to load?
--
Marius Sutara
Developer
http://blogs.msdn.com/MariusSutara
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Post by JB
Hi all,
I have been having major issues with my 2nday MS. About 3 days ago it
started to unload the System Rules spontaneously (about 450 of them). This
meant no alerting was occurring, (and I presume monitoring stopped as well)
for hours at a time.
To circumvent the problem, I made the RMS the management server for all the
agents.
The 2ndary MS is still complaining and unloading the sytem rules every hour
or so with Event Vwr showing Event ID: 20026.
The health service {5314D6FC-230A-1EA4-AFA6-51A1F1069924} running on host
myserver.ad.com and serving management group MY-INFRA with id
{A14EF930-B118-69AB-E6B0-2F2EDCCEC702} is not healthy. Some system rules
failed to load.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone know why this is happening and what fix can be applied?
Should I re-install SCOM on the 2ndary MS?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
Marius Sutara [MSFT]
2009-01-03 00:40:37 UTC
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There is an event (I believe 1102) which should carry an info about what
workflow failed to load.
--
Marius Sutara
Developer
http://blogs.msdn.com/MariusSutara


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Post by JB
Hi Marius,
How should I do this?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
Post by Marius Sutara [MSFT]
were you able to recognize what was failing to load?
--
Marius Sutara
Developer
http://blogs.msdn.com/MariusSutara
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of attachments are subject to the terms specified at
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Post by JB
Hi all,
I have been having major issues with my 2nday MS. About 3 days ago it
started to unload the System Rules spontaneously (about 450 of them). This
meant no alerting was occurring, (and I presume monitoring stopped as well)
for hours at a time.
To circumvent the problem, I made the RMS the management server for all the
agents.
The 2ndary MS is still complaining and unloading the sytem rules every hour
or so with Event Vwr showing Event ID: 20026.
The health service {5314D6FC-230A-1EA4-AFA6-51A1F1069924} running on host
myserver.ad.com and serving management group MY-INFRA with id
{A14EF930-B118-69AB-E6B0-2F2EDCCEC702} is not healthy. Some system rules
failed to load.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone know why this is happening and what fix can be applied?
Should I re-install SCOM on the 2ndary MS?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
JB
2009-01-06 05:43:01 UTC
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Hi Marius,
I get the following in the OpsMgr Event Log. Does that help identify the
issue??
Thx,
John Bradshaw

Event Type: Error
Event Source: OpsMgr Connector
Event Category: None
Event ID: 20026
Date: 6/01/2009
Time: 1:26:09 PM
User: N/A
Computer: INFPWSM003
Description:
The health service {5314D6FC-230A-1EA4-AFA6-51A1F1069924} running on host
infpwsm008.ad.unsw.edu.au and serving management group UNSW-INFRA with id
{A14EF930-B118-69AB-E6B0-2F2EDCCEC702} is not healthy. Some system rules
failed to load.
Post by Marius Sutara [MSFT]
There is an event (I believe 1102) which should carry an info about what
workflow failed to load.
--
Marius Sutara
Developer
http://blogs.msdn.com/MariusSutara
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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Post by JB
Hi Marius,
How should I do this?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
Post by Marius Sutara [MSFT]
were you able to recognize what was failing to load?
--
Marius Sutara
Developer
http://blogs.msdn.com/MariusSutara
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of attachments are subject to the terms specified at
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Post by JB
Hi all,
I have been having major issues with my 2nday MS. About 3 days ago it
started to unload the System Rules spontaneously (about 450 of them). This
meant no alerting was occurring, (and I presume monitoring stopped as well)
for hours at a time.
To circumvent the problem, I made the RMS the management server for all the
agents.
The 2ndary MS is still complaining and unloading the sytem rules every hour
or so with Event Vwr showing Event ID: 20026.
The health service {5314D6FC-230A-1EA4-AFA6-51A1F1069924} running on host
myserver.ad.com and serving management group MY-INFRA with id
{A14EF930-B118-69AB-E6B0-2F2EDCCEC702} is not healthy. Some system rules
failed to load.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone know why this is happening and what fix can be applied?
Should I re-install SCOM on the 2ndary MS?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
JB
2009-01-06 05:46:02 UTC
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I also get a lot of the following Warnings:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: HealthService
Event Category: None
Event ID: 2115
Date: 6/01/2009
Time: 2:30:07 PM
User: N/A
Computer: INFPWSM003
Description:
A Bind Data Source in Management Group UNSW-INFRA has posted items to the
workflow, but has not received a response in 83098 seconds. This indicates a
performance or functional problem with the workflow.
Workflow Id : Microsoft.SystemCenter.DataWarehouse.CollectEventData
Instance : infpwsm003.ad.unsw.edu.au
Instance Id : {3D57A144-FD0D-0B60-DC46-23448F072632}
Post by JB
Hi Marius,
I get the following in the OpsMgr Event Log. Does that help identify the
issue??
Thx,
John Bradshaw
Event Type: Error
Event Source: OpsMgr Connector
Event Category: None
Event ID: 20026
Date: 6/01/2009
Time: 1:26:09 PM
User: N/A
Computer: INFPWSM003
The health service {5314D6FC-230A-1EA4-AFA6-51A1F1069924} running on host
infpwsm008.ad.unsw.edu.au and serving management group UNSW-INFRA with id
{A14EF930-B118-69AB-E6B0-2F2EDCCEC702} is not healthy. Some system rules
failed to load.
Post by Marius Sutara [MSFT]
There is an event (I believe 1102) which should carry an info about what
workflow failed to load.
--
Marius Sutara
Developer
http://blogs.msdn.com/MariusSutara
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Post by JB
Hi Marius,
How should I do this?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
Post by Marius Sutara [MSFT]
were you able to recognize what was failing to load?
--
Marius Sutara
Developer
http://blogs.msdn.com/MariusSutara
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of attachments are subject to the terms specified at
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Post by JB
Hi all,
I have been having major issues with my 2nday MS. About 3 days ago it
started to unload the System Rules spontaneously (about 450 of them). This
meant no alerting was occurring, (and I presume monitoring stopped as well)
for hours at a time.
To circumvent the problem, I made the RMS the management server for all the
agents.
The 2ndary MS is still complaining and unloading the sytem rules every hour
or so with Event Vwr showing Event ID: 20026.
The health service {5314D6FC-230A-1EA4-AFA6-51A1F1069924} running on host
myserver.ad.com and serving management group MY-INFRA with id
{A14EF930-B118-69AB-E6B0-2F2EDCCEC702} is not healthy. Some system rules
failed to load.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone know why this is happening and what fix can be applied?
Should I re-install SCOM on the 2ndary MS?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
Ernie Brant
2011-07-15 12:24:14 UTC
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Hello J

I have almost identical symptoms but this is on a newly installed Management Server, SCOM 2007 R2 CU3 did you find the answer to your issue?

Please let me know, Thank you
Post by JB
Hi all,
I have been having major issues with my 2nday MS. About 3 days ago it
started to unload the System Rules spontaneously (about 450 of them). This
meant no alerting was occurring, (and I presume monitoring stopped as well)
for hours at a time.
To circumvent the problem, I made the RMS the management server for all the
agents.
The 2ndary MS is still complaining and unloading the sytem rules every hour
or so with Event Vwr showing Event ID: 20026.
The health service {5314D6FC-230A-1EA4-AFA6-51A1F1069924} running on host
myserver.ad.com and serving management group MY-INFRA with id
{A14EF930-B118-69AB-E6B0-2F2EDCCEC702} is not healthy. Some system rules
failed to load.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone know why this is happening and what fix can be applied?
Should I re-install SCOM on the 2ndary MS?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
Post by Marius Sutara [MSFT]
were you able to recognize what was failing to load?
--
Marius Sutara
Developer
http://blogs.msdn.com/MariusSutara
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of attachments are subject to the terms specified at
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Post by JB
Hi Marius,
How should I do this?
Thx,
John Bradshaw
Post by Marius Sutara [MSFT]
There is an event (I believe 1102) which should carry an info about what
workflow failed to load.
--
Marius Sutara
Developer
http://blogs.msdn.com/MariusSutara
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of attachments are subject to the terms specified at
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Post by JB
Hi Marius,
I get the following in the OpsMgr Event Log. Does that help identify the
issue??
Thx,
John Bradshaw
Event Type: Error
Event Source: OpsMgr Connector
Event Category: None
Event ID: 20026
Date: 6/01/2009
Time: 1:26:09 PM
User: N/A
Computer: INFPWSM003
The health service {5314D6FC-230A-1EA4-AFA6-51A1F1069924} running on host
infpwsm008.ad.unsw.edu.au and serving management group UNSW-INFRA with id
{A14EF930-B118-69AB-E6B0-2F2EDCCEC702} is not healthy. Some system rules
failed to load.
Post by JB
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: HealthService
Event Category: None
Event ID: 2115
Date: 6/01/2009
Time: 2:30:07 PM
User: N/A
Computer: INFPWSM003
A Bind Data Source in Management Group UNSW-INFRA has posted items to the
workflow, but has not received a response in 83098 seconds. This indicates a
performance or functional problem with the workflow.
Workflow Id : Microsoft.SystemCenter.DataWarehouse.CollectEventData
Instance : infpwsm003.ad.unsw.edu.au
Instance Id : {3D57A144-FD0D-0B60-DC46-23448F072632}
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