Discussion:
HP SIM --> OpsMgr Product Connector
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MigrateMe
2008-10-01 19:57:03 UTC
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Has anyone heard of one?
Arie de Haan [MOM - MVP]
2008-10-02 14:49:48 UTC
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Post by MigrateMe
Has anyone heard of one?
Not about a connector, but you can use SNMP from HP-SIM towards OpsMgr
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Arie
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MigrateMe
2008-10-02 15:05:00 UTC
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Thank you for the reply
Can you be a little more specific? Are there any guides for this?
Post by Arie de Haan [MOM - MVP]
Post by MigrateMe
Has anyone heard of one?
Not about a connector, but you can use SNMP from HP-SIM towards OpsMgr
--
Greetz,
Arie
This posting is provide "AS IS" with no guarantees, warranties, rigths
etc.
Jeremy D. Pavleck
2008-10-02 17:03:52 UTC
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http://h18013.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/mom2007/
The Management Packs are fairly awesome I must say - full featured. They
essentially will mimic everything SIM does.
The MP actually comes with different tools depending on what you
downloaded - such as the HP Storage MP and the Storage Config Utility.
All of it's in the docs though.

JDP
Post by MigrateMe
Thank you for the reply
Can you be a little more specific? Are there any guides for this?
Post by Arie de Haan [MOM - MVP]
Post by MigrateMe
Has anyone heard of one?
Not about a connector, but you can use SNMP from HP-SIM towards OpsMgr
--
Greetz,
Arie
This posting is provide "AS IS" with no guarantees, warranties, rigths
etc.
--
Jeremy D. Pavleck
http://www.Pavleck.Net - SCOM & PowerShell
Contact Info: http://pavleck.net/about
MigrateMe
2008-10-02 17:54:05 UTC
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Thanks for the reply
I have loaded ProLiant, BladeSystem, Integrity, and StorageWorks(not fully
working yet) MPs. The request is to load all SIM alerts into SCOM so there
can be one true management solution.

This was a request brought to me, are you saying the MPs catch everything
SIM will?
Post by Jeremy D. Pavleck
http://h18013.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/mom2007/
The Management Packs are fairly awesome I must say - full featured. They
essentially will mimic everything SIM does.
The MP actually comes with different tools depending on what you
downloaded - such as the HP Storage MP and the Storage Config Utility.
All of it's in the docs though.
JDP
Post by MigrateMe
Thank you for the reply
Can you be a little more specific? Are there any guides for this?
Post by Arie de Haan [MOM - MVP]
Post by MigrateMe
Has anyone heard of one?
Not about a connector, but you can use SNMP from HP-SIM towards OpsMgr
--
Greetz,
Arie
This posting is provide "AS IS" with no guarantees, warranties, rigths
etc.
--
Jeremy D. Pavleck
http://www.Pavleck.Net - SCOM & PowerShell
Contact Info: http://pavleck.net/about
Jeremy D. Pavleck
2008-10-02 20:20:05 UTC
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Yep, it'll pop the same errors that SIM will, and then some more - in
fact there's some overlap, the SNMP part of the MP and the event
monitoring of the MP - so you'll need to do some tuning.

And it's not 100% perfect. Some of the monitors are setup and should
work perfectly 100% of the time but don't - usually it's dependent on
the version of the HP agents.

To use an example, when a drive fails it records that "Drive slot 0,
serial number XXXXXXXXX has changed state, the new state is X"
that will fire the alert.
Every now and then when you put a new drive in, it won't clear the
monitor - because the correlating message it's looking for doesn't show
up - instead the agent might do a more generic 'a drive was inserted!'.
Thus the monitor will never go back into it's Healthy state.

Now, that's only a problem if you're attempting to run OpsManager
completely headless - as long as there's some eyes on it to manually
verify and close alerts then you'll be fine.
Post by MigrateMe
Thanks for the reply
I have loaded ProLiant, BladeSystem, Integrity, and StorageWorks(not fully
working yet) MPs. The request is to load all SIM alerts into SCOM so there
can be one true management solution.
This was a request brought to me, are you saying the MPs catch everything
SIM will?
Post by Jeremy D. Pavleck
http://h18013.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/mom2007/
The Management Packs are fairly awesome I must say - full featured. They
essentially will mimic everything SIM does.
The MP actually comes with different tools depending on what you
downloaded - such as the HP Storage MP and the Storage Config Utility.
All of it's in the docs though.
JDP
Post by MigrateMe
Thank you for the reply
Can you be a little more specific? Are there any guides for this?
Post by Arie de Haan [MOM - MVP]
Post by MigrateMe
Has anyone heard of one?
Not about a connector, but you can use SNMP from HP-SIM towards OpsMgr
--
Greetz,
Arie
This posting is provide "AS IS" with no guarantees, warranties, rigths
etc.
--
Jeremy D. Pavleck
http://www.Pavleck.Net - SCOM & PowerShell
Contact Info: http://pavleck.net/about
--
Jeremy D. Pavleck
http://www.Pavleck.Net - SCOM & PowerShell
Contact Info: http://pavleck.net/about
MigrateMe
2008-12-03 16:14:04 UTC
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Jeremy,
Thanks for the reply. Since we have implemented and configured the HP
management packs we have noticed that there is a disconnect between the
alerts in HP SIM and what appears in SCOM. HP SIM provides better alerting as
of the past several months.

I ran across this site
http://blogs.technet.com/mscom/archive/2008/04/16/modern-net-development-and-the-joy-of-simple-linq-to-sql.aspx
which provides the type of solution I am looking for. Unfortunately he did
not post the entire solution :(

Please, if anyone has anymore information I would love to hear it.
Jeremy D. Pavleck
2008-12-03 20:14:41 UTC
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Well, hold up - instead of doing that, how about you tell us where the
disconnects are and we try to fix them. If you look through the HP MP
help files, you'll see they list literally every aspect that it
monitors, which should be close to if not the same as what is in SIM.

For the most part, any and all actual acitonable items should be
received by both systems - there may be differences in the reportable
data, but I've been running into slight issues like this as well and I'd
love to know what you're missing so I can correlate it with my stuff and
we can get this fixed, instead of relying on multiple monitoring tools :)
Post by MigrateMe
Jeremy,
Thanks for the reply. Since we have implemented and configured the HP
management packs we have noticed that there is a disconnect between the
alerts in HP SIM and what appears in SCOM. HP SIM provides better alerting as
of the past several months.
I ran across this site
http://blogs.technet.com/mscom/archive/2008/04/16/modern-net-development-and-the-joy-of-simple-linq-to-sql.aspx
which provides the type of solution I am looking for. Unfortunately he did
not post the entire solution :(
Please, if anyone has anymore information I would love to hear it.
--
Jeremy D. Pavleck
http://www.Pavleck.Net - SCOM & PowerShell
Contact Info: http://pavleck.net/about
Dominique DUCHEMIN
2010-08-07 23:43:33 UTC
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Hello,

Has it been resolved?
I have several HP SIM Alerts which are not popping up in SCOM.
e.g.:
Windows 2000 Server Advanced SP4
Status:rtt:1m;Temperature:98.60F
CDS05:161(cpu)
3 previous alerts sent
critical failures:27

this is logged by the IP Monitor, HPSIM but not by SCOm no alert on temperature???

Thanks,
Dom



Jeremy D. Pavleck wrote:

Well, hold up - instead of doing that, how about you tell us where the
03-Dec-08

Well, hold up - instead of doing that, how about you tell us where the
disconnects are and we try to fix them. If you look through the HP MP
help files, you'll see they list literally every aspect that it
monitors, which should be close to if not the same as what is in SIM

For the most part, any and all actual acitonable items should be
received by both systems - there may be differences in the reportable
data, but I've been running into slight issues like this as well and I'd
love to know what you're missing so I can correlate it with my stuff and
we can get this fixed, instead of relying on multiple monitoring tools :

MigrateMe wrote

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http://www.Pavleck.Net - SCOM & PowerShel
Contact Info: http://pavleck.net/about

Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:57 PM
MigrateM wrote:

HP SIM --> OpsMgr Product Connector
Has anyone heard of one?

On Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:49 AM
Arie de Haan [MOM - MVP] wrote:

Re: HP SIM --> OpsMgr Product Connector
In article <B2A1529B-AFE5-4CA2-AEAF-***@microsoft.com>,
***@discussions.microsoft.com says..
Not about a connector, but you can use SNMP from HP-SIM towards OpsMg
--
Greetz

Ari
This posting is provide "AS IS" with no guarantees, warranties, rigths
etc.

On Thursday, October 02, 2008 11:05 AM
MigrateM wrote:

Thank you for the replyCan you be a little more specific?
Thank you for the repl
Can you be a little more specific? Are there any guides for this

"Arie de Haan [MOM - MVP]" wrote:

On Thursday, October 02, 2008 1:03 PM
Jeremy D. Pavleck wrote:

Re: HP SIM --> OpsMgr Product Connector
http://h18013.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/mom2007
The Management Packs are fairly awesome I must say - full featured. They
essentially will mimic everything SIM does
The MP actually comes with different tools depending on what you
downloaded - such as the HP Storage MP and the Storage Config Utility.
All of it's in the docs though

JD

MigrateMe wrote

--

Jeremy D. Pavlec
http://www.Pavleck.Net - SCOM & PowerShel
Contact Info: http://pavleck.net/about

On Thursday, October 02, 2008 1:54 PM
MigrateM wrote:

Thanks for the replyI have loaded ProLiant, BladeSystem, Integrity, and
Thanks for the repl
I have loaded ProLiant, BladeSystem, Integrity, and StorageWorks(not fully
working yet) MPs. The request is to load all SIM alerts into SCOM so there
can be one true management solution

This was a request brought to me, are you saying the MPs catch everything
SIM will

"Jeremy D. Pavleck" wrote:

On Thursday, October 02, 2008 4:20 PM
Jeremy D. Pavleck wrote:

Yep, it'll pop the same errors that SIM will, and then some more - in fact
Yep, it'll pop the same errors that SIM will, and then some more - in
fact there's some overlap, the SNMP part of the MP and the event
monitoring of the MP - so you'll need to do some tuning

And it's not 100% perfect. Some of the monitors are setup and should
work perfectly 100% of the time but don't - usually it's dependent on
the version of the HP agents

To use an example, when a drive fails it records that "Drive slot 0,
serial number XXXXXXXXX has changed state, the new state is X
that will fire the alert
Every now and then when you put a new drive in, it won't clear the
monitor - because the correlating message it's looking for doesn't show
up - instead the agent might do a more generic 'a drive was inserted!'.
Thus the monitor will never go back into it's Healthy state

Now, that's only a problem if you're attempting to run OpsManager
completely headless - as long as there's some eyes on it to manually
verify and close alerts then you'll be fine.


MigrateMe wrote:
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Jeremy D. Pavleck
http://www.Pavleck.Net - SCOM & PowerShell
Contact Info: http://pavleck.net/about

On Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:14 AM
MigrateM wrote:

Jeremy,Thanks for the reply.
Jeremy,
Thanks for the reply. Since we have implemented and configured the HP
management packs we have noticed that there is a disconnect between the
alerts in HP SIM and what appears in SCOM. HP SIM provides better alerting as
of the past several months.

I ran across this site
http://blogs.technet.com/mscom/archive/2008/04/16/modern-net-development-and-the-joy-of-simple-linq-to-sql.aspx
which provides the type of solution I am looking for. Unfortunately he did
not post the entire solution :(

Please, if anyone has anymore information I would love to hear it.

On Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:14 PM
Jeremy D. Pavleck wrote:

Well, hold up - instead of doing that, how about you tell us where the
Well, hold up - instead of doing that, how about you tell us where the
disconnects are and we try to fix them. If you look through the HP MP
help files, you'll see they list literally every aspect that it
monitors, which should be close to if not the same as what is in SIM.

For the most part, any and all actual acitonable items should be
received by both systems - there may be differences in the reportable
data, but I've been running into slight issues like this as well and I'd
love to know what you're missing so I can correlate it with my stuff and
we can get this fixed, instead of relying on multiple monitoring tools :)

MigrateMe wrote:
--
Jeremy D. Pavleck
http://www.Pavleck.Net - SCOM & PowerShell
Contact Info: http://pavleck.net/about


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